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#77969 - 06/18/07 05:56 AM
aspie Quiz (for research)
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Another ? diagnostic AS Quiz "The goal of this test - besides existing as a service to the public - is to compare known and less known neurodiversity traits in people with formal neuropsychiatric diagnosis to self-diagnosed and to the general population, and then try to get an evaluation of the results published in a scientific journal." Aspie Quiz My score:- "Your Aspie score 169 of 200 your neurotypical (non Autistic) score 32 of 200 you are very likely an Aspie" ************* No.1 son's :- Aspie 140 of 200 NT 58 of 200 Likely an Aspie
Edited by Woman from Mars (06/18/07 02:26 PM) Edit Reason: to add goal
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#78085 - 06/19/07 05:39 AM
Re: aspie Quiz (for research)
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My score: Your Aspie score: 139 of 200 Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 60 of 200 You are very likely an Aspie. This was an interesting test. Thanks for posting it up! 
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#78087 - 06/19/07 06:17 AM
Re: aspie Quiz (for research)
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Thanks jencatd, I'm glad that you found it interesting.
I thought that it was more comprehensive than the Baron Cohen tests & gave a individual scores for each trait, adding a complete comparative breakdown of what is considered typical Nt behaviour, as opposed to AS behaviour.
One thing that I did find silly, was that they only document one person from each IP address, I can see their point, but on the other hand, there are three in this household who could have added to their study.
Edited by Woman from Mars (06/19/07 07:34 AM) Edit Reason: alter a word
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#78089 - 06/19/07 06:26 AM
Re: aspie Quiz (for research)
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Your Aspie score: 137 of 200 Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 54 of 200 You are very likely an Aspie
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#78096 - 06/19/07 09:02 AM
Re: aspie Quiz (for research)
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Your Aspie score: 156 of 200 Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 39 of 200 You are very likely an Aspie
I noted errors in questions 92 and 136
92 Do you often don't know where to put your arms?
Should be rephrased to "Do you often not know where..."
136 Do you need to do things yourself in order to remember them?
How is it possible to remember something you haven't done?
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#78097 - 06/19/07 10:28 AM
Re: aspie Quiz (for research)
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136 Do you need to do things yourself in order to remember them?
How is it possible to remember something you haven't done? This is how I understood this question: NTs can often sit in a classroom listening to a teacher explaining something, and much later reproduce that explanation for a test. (In my experience they often fail to understand the lesson in the sense of being able to put the learning to use, but that may be my prejudice.) Aspies sitting in a classroom tend to start thinking about part of what the teacher said, and go off on a tangent of their own, thus missing part of the lesson. To understand something, they have to try it themselves. Once they've tried it, they really understand it, and can put the knowlege to use. I once had a very NT business partner. We found we could work very effectively together in business meetings. His job was to take notes to make sure we did not forget anything significant said at the meeting. Mine was to make sure I understood everything at the time it was said, questioning anything I did not understand. While it worked, it was very productive. Eventually I realized that my partner was becoming upset that (because I was the one who asked the questions) our clients sometimes made it obvious that they considered me the real brains of the outfit. I tried to compensate by being careful to make several statements every meeting of the form "my partner's the real expert in this area". Being Aspie, I was no doubt clumsy doing this, and my partner found it patronising. Eventually the partnership broke up over this, and the business has declined since.
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#78101 - 06/19/07 10:55 AM
Re: aspie Quiz (for research)
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136 Do you need to do things yourself in order to remember them? How is it possible to remember something you haven't done? I understood this to mean:- I know certain things need doing (perhaps daily tasks ), but if I allow someone else to to assist, my train of thought is interrupted & I would forget to do / complete whatever.
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#78103 - 06/19/07 11:07 AM
Re: aspie Quiz (for research)
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Wild!
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#78105 - 06/19/07 11:13 AM
Re: aspie Quiz (for research)
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Wild????? Are you saying that I'm bonkers?
Edited by Woman from Mars (06/19/07 11:19 AM) Edit Reason: add icon
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#78108 - 06/19/07 11:35 AM
Re: aspie Quiz (for research)
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Thanks BK_G, Specific is good. so is being bonkers! 
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#78110 - 06/19/07 11:53 AM
Re: aspie Quiz (for research)
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Wild????? Are you saying that I'm bonkers?  I'm just amazed that you and Bart are absolutely convinced of one meaning, and Linda and I equally convinced of another. Just shows how careful test-designers should be to make questions unambiguous. Bart, the main criticism levelled at IQ tests is that many have a hidden socialization element, i.e. does the test-taker have enough empathy for the test-designer to figure out what the latter intended. Being a math major, I'll give a math example: IQ tests often include questions giving a string of numbers 1, 4, 9, 16..... and asking you to decide what the next should be. Any mathematician knows that any number whatsoever can be put next, and a perfectly reasonable explanation given for that number. The 'right' answer is the one whose explanation is simple enough to be understood by the designer, who is a psychologist, not a mathematician. Bart, if you produced valid reasoning for other answers to this kind of question, it just means you're a better mathematician than the designer, which wouldn't surprise me at all. Other kinds of questions have parallel defects, but I'm less sensitive to them. For some purposes, a test of the subjet's ability to figure out what the test designer intended may be very useful, but then it shouldn't be called an IQ test. My main concern with many kinds of test is that test results are somehow regarded as a measure of the worth of a person. I find school reports particularly offensive in this regard. GPAs are definitely regarded as measures of merit.
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#78114 - 06/19/07 12:36 PM
Re: aspie Quiz (for research)
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I think maybe you've 'hit the nail on the head', Woman from Mars. That seems most likely to the right meaning, at least, until some other likely meaning is proposed. It's too bad they can't make these question a bit more specific. I know it used to drive them crazy when I proposed several answers and the logic behind them for IQ tests. You should try the LSAT's (law school admission tests) if the IQ tests put you off. Often, the "correct" answer is actually incorrect, but they explain this away by referring to the directions, which instruct you to "choose the best answer." Best answer? The best amnswer is the answer they want! I came to score as high as possible! The test preparation gurus wisely point out beforehand this problem with the LSAT and suggest using a system of elimination (all the tests are multiple choice.) This involves ruling out the answers which are logical impossibilities and then pretending you are a moronic test-maker and trying to guess what an NT might answer. It's not a very hard test if you follow these rules, but if you went in trying to answer without realizing that a "wrong" answer is often the right answer, it might overwhelm some. I too debated the answers on my last IQ test. Unfortunately, the tester seemed both uninterested, as he was tasked with scoring according to his chart, and intent on his own agenda, so when I answered "I can't answwer this question from the data provided because there are three possible correct answers whioch are...." - he would just score that as a correct answer because the answer they considered correct was in my list of possibilities, despite the fact that my answer was actually "can not answer." NT's - Go figure!
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#78115 - 06/19/07 12:41 PM
Re: aspie Quiz (for research)
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As to the question being debated, I have to come down on the side of Linda and John. I clearly understood it as asking if one had difficulties performing a task based on oral instructions without a "hands-on" component.
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#78124 - 06/19/07 02:16 PM
Re: aspie Quiz (for research)
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"I clearly understood" You didn't need to add 'clearly', except to emphasize how right you think you are. I'm not disagreeing that you may indeed be right, and have bragging rights. 
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#78125 - 06/19/07 02:19 PM
Re: aspie Quiz (for research)
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Be a bit more literal please - I added the word "clearly" to differentiate my form of understanding from "I read it, and upon reflection understood" or "I read it and decided."
Perhaps I should have said "immediately" instead of clearly.
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#78126 - 06/19/07 02:26 PM
Re: aspie Quiz (for research)
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Your Aspie score: 131 of 200 Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 98 of 200 You seem to have both Aspie and neurotypical traits
I feel this is a right fit.
I often need to do things to learn. I blank when someone is giving verbal instructions. Can't be bothered to listen - I would rather wait and then do it - nut things out as I go along.
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#78150 - 06/19/07 03:56 PM
Re: aspie Quiz (for research)
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I am gifted with the traits of aspergers.
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#78152 - 06/19/07 03:58 PM
Re: aspie Quiz (for research)
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You should try the LSAT's (law school admission tests) if the IQ tests put you off.
Yes, they were really fun!
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#78155 - 06/19/07 04:04 PM
Re: aspie Quiz (for research)
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I enjoyed them. Couldn't stand the others who showed up to take them though - they really thought a lot of themselves. I am glad I outscored the very vast majority of them, if not all in that hall that day.
A friend of mine once told me the story of how he had come home drunk one night and the next morning his father shoved him into the car and drove him down to skid row and told him to get out. When he protested, his father (an old Irishman) said "Get out Son! Go and meet your peers!"
That is kind of how I felt after assessing the company in the lecture hall where the LSAT's were administered.
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#78158 - 06/19/07 04:21 PM
Re: aspie Quiz (for research)
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I am gifted with the traits of aspergers. That's a very good observation.
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#78237 - 06/21/07 06:47 AM
Re: aspie Quiz (for research)
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Dear Woman from Mars,
Thanks from me also for posting the quiz and prompting the discussion. I got the same feeling with this one as when I first took the Baron-Cohen quiz. The results suggested that I was most likely AS at the time I took it. I thought back to when I was 20 and speculated that I would have scored 100% "AS" at that time.
There is a growing experience factor that I carry around which would make any such test less and less objective the older (and wiser) one gets. I had a hard time answering the questions honestly because I've "corrected" a lot of my behaviour over my lifetime. I felt the quiz did not test ME. It was more like it was testing my progress toward learning how to be NT.
I would think that an effect such as this would be more important than the content of the individual questions.
Sincerely, Richard
Edited by Richard Cassera (06/21/07 06:56 AM) Edit Reason: to re-word my idea
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#78239 - 06/21/07 06:58 AM
Re: aspie Quiz (for research)
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I enjoyed them. Couldn't stand the others who showed up to take them though - they really thought a lot of themselves. I am glad I outscored the very vast majority of them, if not all in that hall that day. You and I are so alike in some ways -scary thought!  When I first came to the US with $70 in my pocket and started looking for work, I lived for a while in a little commune in Brooklyn. One of the guys there was in his senior undergraduate year, studying to take the LSAT. I used to enjoy studying with him, which he partly appreciated because it helped him, but he was also irritated because I enjoyed something he found difficult. Just for fun, I decided to take the LSAT with him. Big mistake - he was so annoyed that I outscored him that I had to move out of the commune. I guess it worked out OK in the end, I bought I house in the suburbs which I sold for more than double four years later.
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#78240 - 06/21/07 07:13 AM
Re: aspie Quiz (for research)
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the older (and wiser) one gets. Ah well, some of us might get older, but not wiser! 
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#78351 - 06/22/07 04:38 PM
Re: aspie Quiz (for research)
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I did this test back in February, It took me a while to find the results (I posted them on my blog but didn't tag the entry for easy finding)
Aspie 142/200 neurtypical 30/200
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#78377 - 06/22/07 09:46 PM
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#78397 - 06/23/07 08:09 AM
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