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#90402 - 01/08/09 01:15 PM Too bad it has to come to this
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but whatever it takes....

Former bullied student sues Tukwila School District

By LEVI PULKKINEN
P-I REPORTER

An autistic young man and his parents have sued the Tukwila School District, claiming management failed to act against unrelenting bullying.

In a complaint served on the school district Tuesday, the former student, now 20, says years of bullying pushed him to suicidal thoughts. Court documents show repeated unsuccessful attempts by his parents to get the district to take action against the bullies.

The school district ignored complaints from the man's mother, an assistant at the middle school he attended, and its own experts who warned that he was suffering from post-traumatic stress and an anxiety disorder because of the bullying, lawyer Yvonne Kinoshita Ward said. Afflicted by Asperger's Syndrome, a more mild form of autism, the man was especially susceptible to abuse.

"People with Asperger's can become very functional adults," Ward said. "They can become productive members of society, and he was on that path."

The student began to suffer from bullying when he began sixth grade at Shoalwater Middle School. Ward said he developed suicidal thoughts because of constant taunting and physical abuse by students at the school.

The district ultimately transferred the student to a private school at the suggestion of an independent expert, according to court documents. But the district sued the student and his parents in truancy court after the student refused to attend 11th and 12th grade at Foster High School, where many of those who had bullied him were enrolled.

A district representative did not return calls for comment Tuesday.

The student's parents obtained a court order mandating that he be placed at schools outside the district, from which he graduated in June. Ward said the student still is generally afraid of people and is not able to live independently.

In the King County Superior Court lawsuit, the student is requesting unspecified damages. The district has not filed a response.

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#90404 - 01/08/09 02:52 PM Re: Too bad it has to come to this [Re: Mom4Max]
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Somewhere along the line those in a position of responsibility and control have to actually take that responsibility and control. Failure to do so, as the only ones who CAN do that, is sickening.
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#90414 - 01/09/09 04:56 AM Re: Too bad it has to come to this [Re: BK_G]
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Originally Posted By: BK_G
Somewhere along the line those in a position of responsibility and control have to actually take that responsibility and control. Failure to do so, as the only ones who CAN do that, is sickening.
It certainly is and I hope this young man receives a very large payout. Mind you, no amount of money will replace the youth that he lost as a result of the bullying at school.

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#92287 - 06/21/09 04:56 AM Re: Too bad it has to come to this [Re: Pandora]
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sorry but yes it sad he was bullied
and the school should have done a lot more to help him.

However this is how I see it I was bullied really bad from preschool to the 12th grade.

Teacher Bullied me as well as students, it not that uncommon.

I was even rape when i was young, But I never had suicidal thoughts
and I never would either.

Since killing one self is the easy way out and cowardly, for me I always got them back 10 times worse then they did me.

That the way you do it, make them scared to death of you.

Well I only ever had 1 friends but she was a good friend.

Any way that kid is a idiot coward he should not let the kids get to him he should have gotten them back and the teachers.

He was weak and still weak.

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#92326 - 06/21/09 09:30 AM Re: Too bad it has to come to this [Re: revyi perrine]
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I don't agree that the kid was weak. He just didn't have the means to cope. I read somewhere, that suicide is the option taken when all other options have been exhausted. The problem stems from the incorrect perception that all other options have indeed been used up. If your view of the world, due to upbringing or handicaps, is such that you don't SEE those other options, then, for you, they have all been exhausted. Showing other options is probably the prime challenge and need for people trying to help the person who is suicidal.

From YOUR perspective, seeing those other options, that child was weak, but that is because you can see those other options.
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#92328 - 06/21/09 09:36 AM Re: Too bad it has to come to this [Re: BK_G]
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Originally Posted By: BK_G
I don't agree that the kid was weak. He just didn't have the means to cope. I read somewhere, that suicide is the option taken when all other options have been exhausted. The problem stems from the incorrect perception that all other options have indeed been used up. If your view of the world, due to upbringing or handicaps, is such that you don't SEE those other options, then, for you, they have all been exhausted. Showing other options is probably the prime challenge and need for people trying to help the person who is suicidal.

From YOUR perspective, seeing those other options, that child was weak, but that is because you can see those other options.


even if you cannot do any thing but allow them to pick on you then just bare with it.
I guess i could be wrong but to me only the weak minded even consider suicide and if the reason they consider it is they see no other option then that a part of being weak minded as well. NT people i talk to about my past says i have a stronger will to live then most even if it means to hurt others. so people who consider suicide is not weak minded just their will to live is not as strong well that what been repeated over and over to me by NT. Not sure if it right.

however it still stands for me he was weak minded but like i said i could be wrong but this is how i think.

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#92331 - 06/21/09 09:43 AM Re: Too bad it has to come to this [Re: revyi perrine]
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I would suggest that there could be circumstances in which suicide would be a reasonable option.

Someone in a Nazi death camp, understanding that the camp was set up simply to get some work out of him while killing him, might reasonably decide to die before giving the work to his enemies.

No?
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#92333 - 06/21/09 09:46 AM Re: Too bad it has to come to this [Re: revyi perrine]
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Originally Posted By: revyi perrine


however it still stands for me he was weak minded but like i said i could be wrong but this is how i think.


And you may well be right. I don't know if he was weak or not. One thing I have improved in myself, over the years, is my ability and interest in seeing other possibilities; trying to see things from other viewpoints. It is not easy, since I often don't have the background in my personal experience, but by reading a lot, I have added to my storehouse of experiences, albeit those of others. I say "improved" because I found out that being too judgemental didn't make life easier for me, but rather made everything more difficult. By seeing the 'other side' I could more easily forgive, which stopped arguments and fights, and made life more relaxing.

Road rage is triggered by people doing stupid and often illegal things on the road, but if you can just forgive them for those actions, you need not get that rage, and life is less stressful. The frustration increases stress, so learning to understand and forgive reduces stress.
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#92335 - 06/21/09 09:51 AM Re: Too bad it has to come to this [Re: johnblackwell]
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Originally Posted By: johnblackwell
I would suggest that there could be circumstances in which suicide would be a reasonable option.

Someone in a Nazi death camp, understanding that the camp was set up simply to get some work out of him while killing him, might reasonably decide to die before giving the work to his enemies.

No?



sorry you wrong i would either fight them right away and most likely die.

Are i would which this is what i most likely do i would make a plan i would watch and study the guards their behavior find a weakness among a lot of other things until i have the perfect plan of escape.

To me suicide is never a option what every you or in however bad it get keep your cool and study you environment.

Okay you mite still be killed but at lest you put up a fight.

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#92336 - 06/21/09 09:54 AM Re: Too bad it has to come to this [Re: BK_G]
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Originally Posted By: BK_G
Originally Posted By: revyi perrine


however it still stands for me he was weak minded but like i said i could be wrong but this is how i think.


And you may well be right. I don't know if he was weak or not. One thing I have improved in myself, over the years, is my ability and interest in seeing other possibilities; trying to see things from other viewpoints. It is not easy, since I often don't have the background in my personal experience, but by reading a lot, I have added to my storehouse of experiences, albeit those of others. I say "improved" because I found out that being too judgemental didn't make life easier for me, but rather made everything more difficult. By seeing the 'other side' I could more easily forgive, which stopped arguments and fights, and made life more relaxing.

Road rage is triggered by people doing stupid and often illegal things on the road, but if you can just forgive them for those actions, you need not get that rage, and life is less stressful. The frustration increases stress, so learning to understand and forgive reduces stress.


Okay you lost me know no ideal what you talking about how did you get into that forgiveness stuff.
Well if you mean to say i don't have forgiveness well i do since if some one walks on me i forgive them but if they do ti again i will forgive them again however i will not get close to them again and never talk to them again.
since i don't let people walk all over me.

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